Wed 7-16-08

No trivia tonight. Two spouses are traveling and the other couple has custody of the kid tonight.

Bummer.

This is so funny........

All I get is 404 page not found...

at the top right of that page, type in jimmy dean in the search box.

I like that he throws "the two girls" in after mentioning the 3 200 pound guys a half dozen times.

It has been reported that Barack Obama has scrubbed all references of an unworkable "surge" in Iraq, and instead has come out with praise of the procedure. This guy is just another fucking lying, misleading, untruthful con man. He takes a stand, and when it is politically advantageous.....he changes it. Reminds me of the sign to the entrance of the Greek underworld....."ye who enter here.....abandon all hope". This should be put over every voting booth in America!

You must listen to Fox.

Yep.....the only truthful news channel going at the moment.

well tell me what you think about Obama's change of heart on the Iraqi surge. it doesn't matter who reports it.....it's true. If it's true, what does that say for Barack Obama?

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-obama-iraq_dorningjul16,0,3356588.story

Quote :

Obama provided a detailed explanation of his thinking on Iraq and how his views on the war fit into a broader strategic outlook, arguing that the Iraq War is a distraction that has damaged America's security and set back the struggle against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan.

I agree.

Quote :

"What's missing in our debate about Iraq — what has been missing since before the war began — is a discussion of the strategic consequences of Iraq and its dominance of our foreign policy," Obama said. "This war distracts us from every threat that we face and so many opportunities we could seize. This war diminishes our security, our standing in the world, our military, our economy and the resources that we need to confront the challenges of the 21st Century."

Agree.

Quote :

"George Bush and John McCain don't have a strategy for success in Iraq — they have a strategy for staying in Iraq," Obama said. "They said we couldn't leave when violence was up, they say we can't leave when violence is down."

"At some point, a judgment must be made," he added. "Iraq is not going to be a perfect place, and we don't have unlimited resources to try to make it one."

Agree.

Do you mean this?

Quote :

Obama argued that the claim of success for the troop "surge" made by McCain and Bush "misconstrues what is necessary to succeed in Iraq and stubbornly ignores the facts of the broader strategic picture that we face."

"In the 18 months since the surge began, the strain on our military has increased, our troops and their families have borne an enormous burden, and American taxpayers have spent another $200 billion in Iraq," he said.

In the meantime, he said, in Afghanistan, "June was our highest casualty month of the war. The Taliban has been on the offensive, even launching a brazen attack on one of our bases. Al Qaeda has a growing sanctuary in Pakistan."

And yet, Obama argued, "Iraq's leaders have not made the political progress that was the purpose of the 'surge.'"

Agree.

HEY! Burdman just thanked me on his radio show.

lol.....why?

And on Barack.....I was talking only about his stance on the surge before it happened.....and his stance now. Not the whole war. He has "changed" his mind on the results.....and imo, this is beacuse the surge has worked! Not in all aspects of the objectives, but most of them.

Have you seen the latest on the Jesse jackson/barack Obama controversy? Fox edited the tape that I'm sure you've seen.... but the complete quote was "Barack's talking down to black people.....telling n.....rs how to behave....".

No, I hadn't heard the "n" word version. Though it does not surprise me, lol.

As for the surge working, meh. Another empty "mission accomplished" victory. It may have helped marginally with lowering violence but it has not solved any of the problems causing all the violence.

baldar77 wrote:

lol.....why?

Something to do with me being a Firefly/Serenity fangirl. A little random and outdated but whatever.